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Hi everyone.

First of all, I need to say I NEVER trace photos or other people's works. That's too much.

Second: all the cases is not intended to pass for original work. It's strange to think that if you find something on the internet you can steal it, pass it as your own and nobody ever find original one.
I'm still learning, and sometimes when I like character, overall style, composition etc I want to know why I liked it. So maybe there is where the problem starts - I start to copy (or imitate) it to understand what's so good in it. In the end it's more like a redraw, or a 'tribute'. 

My thoughts was that draw tributes means to express my love to the artist and to learn from him. Yes, mistake was in not giving a proper credit, and now I understand.

My biggest mistake was to don't have an ability to understand that it doesn't clear about originality of the pieces, about tributing, to think that is something obvious.

And I'm really sorry for that. If I'd knew earlier how to describe it when uploading, that will never happened. But back in that days (3 years ago) I didn't know how to do it and I until that time I do not think about it.

It maybe look like stealing ideas etc (especially when you compiling pictures with it's original source\inspiration source\reference shot without giving a chance to see original description)

 Kei Toume by Kuvshinov-Ilya

but it's not supposed to pass off as original work.

Sorry for not being clear with crediting and hope you'll understand that I'm not trying pass off my studies as original works.

UPD.: prints are deleted.
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WinrysArt Featured By Owner May 12, 2017  New Deviant Professional General Artist
Hey as long as you make sure people know they're studies and give proper credit you should be fine in future. Doing studies is part of learning.
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imFragrance Featured By Owner May 3, 2017
I do wonder why you do not sign your works, though.
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Izumi-can Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2017  Hobbyist Artist
Nice i DRAW look you to the my galery
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Teslarossa Featured By Owner Mar 27, 2017
how severe is your dyslexia
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KijonaiaArt Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2017  Professional Digital Artist
Considering English isn't her first language, how severe is your dickfacery?
Seriously. Takes two seconds to look and see she's from France. In other words, two seconds to not look like an asshole.
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Cat-nipp Featured By Owner Edited Apr 30, 2017  Student General Artist
Kuvshinov is a man magazine.artstation.com/2014/0… and he's from Russia 
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KijonaiaArt Featured By Owner May 1, 2017  Professional Digital Artist
I wasn't referring to Kushinov... If you'd read the comment thread, at all, you might get the context that I was defending the initial commentor from the follow-up asshole.
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Cat-nipp Featured By Owner Edited May 1, 2017  Student General Artist
Yo why are you calling me an asshole? I was not using an aggressive tone with anybody or even fighting. excuse my mistake for misunderstanding. Sorry I offended you? I didn't realize the comment you were commenting on was making fun of another person(Izumi_chan). I wasn't defending the actions of anyone either.  However, I agree with you calling Teslarossa an asshole. 
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KijonaiaArt Featured By Owner May 1, 2017  Professional Digital Artist
I wasn't calling you one. I was calling Teslarossa one.
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Cat-nipp Featured By Owner May 1, 2017  Student General Artist
Ahhh my apologies, somtimes it's really hard for me to read text on a screen, and I often time misread what people have said. 
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CaptainQ2 Featured By Owner Edited Dec 30, 2016
There is a lot of wrong informations in the comments, maybe everyone should be watching this (Fan art law at comicon, posted by DeviantArt) :  www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKBsTU…

Basicaly, not cause it's tolerated (free ad) and we seeing them all over the internet that fan art is legal... and it's certainly not if you doing money from it.

For example, while you may think drawing Spiderman in a different pose and in a different style isn't a plagiasrism, you still aren't owning the rights to the character.
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Marcsampson Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2016  Professional Digital Artist
oh cmon he apologized, remove everything and cleared it all. so there is nothing left to do or say, if you go on this is nothing more than a witchhunt.
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ManishaChan Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
WAT
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BlueMoonDesuuu Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
It´s obvious those are tributes! People who thinks you are doing plagiarism are just jealous because they can´t even make a good copy or tribute of their own. You´re just simply doing studies and developing as an artist, and it has taken you far! I don´t think there´s nothing wrong about it. The only thing I´d like you to change it´s to start adding a link to the original photo or pictures you used as references, when it´s a big influence in the ending result. But just to compare and study how you managed to make it on your own style, not to judge or anything. Your work is great and you´re very compromised and passionate about it, that´s all that matters because you´re not making any harm, just tributes.
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ConkerBirdy Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Theres a very fine line that rides between tribute and plagiarism. That itself goes into a massive tangeant.


Also, your arguement of "they think you plagiarism is because theyre jealous!!1!! xDDDD" is VERY flawed. Look at it this way, imagine you draw a red chair, and another artist drew the same chair but in a slightly different way and got money for it. You call them out by saying "Hey dude dont copy my art!" only to get bombarded by fans saying "ur just jealous u couldnt do it as good!". Thats an incredibly toxic mentality to have.

I could be wrong on this, but i think he was also making money off of his 'studies' on his Patreon too which itself breaches a lot of copyright and fair use laws.
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BlueMoonDesuuu Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I am aware he earns a lot of money, but it`s a very discused matter when it comes to references, plagiarism, traces, insipirations, etc. I recognize sometimes his work seems traced or very similar to others, we can`t confirm or show proof he has actually traced it, but he has hunreds of other work that are original and absolutely done by him. I don`t think it`s bad when he uses photo references (many if not most artists do) and some fanarts of him consists in redrawing them on his own style. I don`t think that`s bad because it`s interesting to see recreations in different styles and they match with the artists`s experience and capability. I think people are too harsh on artists like him that make a profit of their living. I`m not saying he should earn more or less, I just believe people many times criticize because of jealousy. And studies are sometimes useful for people, as well as his patreons are the ones who decide to spent their money on his work, so it`s what they choose to pay for.
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Pencil-this Featured By Owner Edited Jan 8, 2017  Professional Digital Artist
Has nothing to do with jealousy. It's called "Respect." I have friends who are professionals who won't even dare try to sell their fan related work even as a personal request in fear of legal issues / stepping on another's toes. They know the grunt and the hard work that goes into it. Wouldn't even TRY to even touch it with a ten foot pole. Original looking fanart though is still really questionable, even for them. But so far the references I've seen in other places on the web. Those were 95% duplicates. Beautiful duplicates but not enough to warrant selling it for profit. It is good he apologized.

www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbi…
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ConkerBirdy Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thats not the point, thats not the point at all.

>"we can`t confirm or show proof he has actually traced it"

Im pretty sure theres been write ups by professional artists who have noticed this, or people who have been following him for years. A lot of his sketch linework doesnt make much sense to me either.

>"but he has hunreds of other work that are original and absolutely done by him."

Yes, im aware of this, but thats not the point im argueing.

>" I don`t think it`s bad when he uses photo references (many if not most artists do)"

Thats not the same, the point was he was copying a picture, then profitting off of it through patreon, which itself is illegal. But since the photos he uses cant entirely be traced back to a source as easily (or its from a amateur photographer), he gets away with it.

>"I think people are too harsh on artists like him that make a profit of their living"

Artists take plagiarism and theft VERY seriously, and just because hes popular or 'talented' doesnt give him free reign to continue doing this stuff.
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dr-deku Featured By Owner Sep 26, 2016  Student General Artist
You're so blind.
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BlueMoonDesuuu Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Excuse me for not believing a succesful artist uses plagiarism.
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ConkerBirdy Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Do some basic googling, professional artists are busted all the time for plagiarism. Just because hes 'successful' doesnt mean hes a demigod who can do no wrong.

This mentality is why theres so much scummy artists because 'fans' like you think just because theyre 'successful' means theyre incapable of doing anything wrong.
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BlueMoonDesuuu Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2017  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I didn`t say it has to do with being successful, there are many famous artist that copy lots of work. Regardless, I don`t think Ilya deserves hate because honestly I haven`t seen so far a piece he has taken credit of without mentioning as a tribute or so. But you can have a different opinion of course, we all have. Don`t take me for a brainless dumb, tho. 
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dr-deku Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2016  Student General Artist
Well, the thing is he shamelessly did. I don't mind it, but the fact that he criticized other people that did the same is kinda ironic.
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BlueMoonDesuuu Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I don´t think it´s the same to use a reference or to make a tribute than to trace it. And at least he apologized for criticizing other people´s works for doing it. Most artists don´t even admit it or apologize for it.
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dr-deku Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2016  Student General Artist
It actually just bothers me that this artist gets so much attention and everybody be worshipping him when other artists are doing their max efforts and go unnoticed. My senseis teached me a lot to help me carry on my shit tier art skills but they actually did their best to help. This guy has a cutting edge grasp when it comes to fan-interaction and helping others.
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BlueMoonDesuuu Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I actually understand your point, I know many artists that don´t get the recognizement they deserve despite their huge talent, but that doesn´t mean I won´t admire other well known artists just because they get to be able to earn money from their art. It happens to me what you say but maybe with other artists I don´t go crazy over. I don´t worship Ilya, but I do really like him mostly because of his dedication and capacity for daily uploads since years now, something I find not very easy to do so. He´s not my favourite one ever, but I do really like his style. I don´t understand what do you mean by "helping others", but I suppose there are many people very busy with their work and other stuff so they don´t have that much time to dedicate to answer messages from fans or followers and I don´t think it´s such a bad thing. And they´re also very reserved about themselves sometimes and that´s part of why they don´t interact so much.
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dr-deku Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2016  Student General Artist
Meh, ok
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Prestidigitator-TSH Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2016  Hobbyist
If drawing something based on something else is plagiarism then EVERY bit of fanart EVER is plagiarized.

The logic behind any argument against you is flawed.

Trying to emulate a style isn't theft, it's learning. At the end of the day the finished product of your efforts is still YOUR effort, even if the content legally belongs to someone else.
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Pencil-this Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2017  Professional Digital Artist
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MeganJoke Featured By Owner Sep 1, 2016
Doesn't change the fact that you're a plagiarizing asshole though!.
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AbigailTheSylveon Featured By Owner Edited Jan 30, 2017  Hobbyist Artist
she isn't.

if you bothered to actually read the passage, she apologizes and didn't know any better, unlike somebody here. 
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PenWinter Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2017  Professional General Artist
You mean he.
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AbigailTheSylveon Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2017  Hobbyist Artist
Yeah, sorry.
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curbicon Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2016  Student Digital Artist
w- what?..
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Prestidigitator-TSH Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2016  Hobbyist
That's not really how that works.
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MrGetDown Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2016
Artist can see the obvious masterful skills at work here. I'd just ignore the noobs.  I think it's just non artist who don't appreciate and understand the significant skills involved in the recreations.
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MeganJoke Featured By Owner Sep 1, 2016
You not know the real and trusted professionals. This guy are ony mainstream professional.
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GARDENINGBLOBS Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2016
*this guy is any
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Chiaki-Kouske Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2016
To be perfectly honest I've looked at a couple of your art pieces and tried to draw them myself, that's what I do when I draw most of the time. I'm still an amateur so that's my best process of learning ATM.
Honestly most of my sketchbooks are full of pictures I copied. I tend to keep my sketchbooks pretty personal but if anyone does ever see a copied work even if I don't remember exactly who the credit goes to I'll always state that I looked at someone else's work and copied it. So I can understand the learning aspect of redrawing someone else's work for a better grasp of how and what they did to make such beautiful art. I hope developing my own style based off other work isn't wrong of me though I tend to be influenced by how others draw. And this is a very long comment I'm sorry I'll shut up now 😉 keep up the awesome work ilya
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janev777 Featured By Owner May 27, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Aww it's okay
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Shammiiee Featured By Owner May 2, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
Yeah. Some beginners and first learners are accused of tracing arts, I base from references too. And I tell it on my description that I do, and yes tracing is too much. We're here, we have the passion to draw, and not trace.
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digorylarynith Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2016  Professional Digital Artist
I don't see any signs of tracing, because if it is, the position or the angle should be the same.

I still love your artstyle and keep it up. :)
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LoverOfAllCats Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
how is this related?
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TruthHurt Featured By Owner Edited Feb 6, 2016
Good job on admiting and apologizing.... After people got tired and started pointing fingers and yelling at you!
Looks like to me you thought if you copy or trace less known or not popular artists stuff , even pose ffs.. You thought people wouldn't notice!?

O wait its too small comment/critique let me add some more things and to not repeat what others said:
"Art thief , plagiator, copycat, blablabla blablabla bla blya!" Karma! From what I see most of your original stuff is just colored , and lips eye form changed from also other pictures... Now I doupt you can actually even draw...
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SympathyfortheDevil9 Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
She at least admitted her mistake and took down the prints...what more do you want her to do??
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chibipiglet Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I think there's nothing wrong with this as long as Kushinov did not take it as his original work.
If drawing everything from a reference, and by "everything" I meant even the composition is considered plagiarism, I think many professional artists are guilty of it, too.
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roshpatricio Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2016  Professional Interface Designer
i think there is no bad about this. kuvshinov did not say that it's her own, she even gave credit to the original.
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MamaMantis Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2015   General Artist
As someone who's had her work plagiarized time after time, thank you SO MUCH for this. I know I'm late to the party, but better late than never, eh? I really appreciate that you're open with this, give your thoughts on it, and have taken the prints down. Yes it was wrong, but the more people who see this and then realize that they should take your example and stop, the better.
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